Switching Fonts in a template

[Dan Korn]

Originally Posted by daniel

I'm not sure how FusionPro works.

Understood. But at the same time, I'm not sure exactly how your computer is set up, nor how your fonts have been installed. That's why these kinds of problems are very difficult to diagnose in the context of this online forum.

I mean, you haven't even specified the versions of FusionPro, Acrobat, and the operating system running on any of the computers you've mentioned in this thread. Nor have you said whether you're using any third-party font utilities. I'm trying to help with very limited information, looking through a keyhole.

Originally Posted by daniel

All i know is that when I go on a different computer that doesn't have "Font A" and I choose to load all fonts from FusionPro "Font A" appears in the PTI folder.

Which PTI folder specifically are you referring to? Do you mean "/Library/Preferences/PTI/FusionPro/Fonts"? What about the fonts.ini and fonts.err files? Are there references to "Font A" in there?

Also, by what mechanism are you determining that this other computer doesn't have "Font A" installed? Are you looking in the Font Book app? That's the definitive list of fonts installed on your Mac.

It could be that the "Font A" that you see in FusionPro has a slightly different name in the Font Book, or in other applications. It may show up as "Font A Regular" or "Font-A". Any given font can have multiple names.

Originally Posted by daniel

So I assume it's pulling the font from a server.

I don't understand why you would assume that. FusionPro loads the fonts installed on the system, by making system API calls. It has no way to "pull a font from a server." Now, if you're using some kind of third-party font utility, that utility may be making a font available on your system. But FusionPro still just goes by what the operating system tells it are the installed system fonts.

When you collect a job, the fonts are collected through Assets.dat, so that they can be used to compose the job on a remote machine running FusionPro Server. But whatever is on some other remote machine has nothing to do with the fonts that get loaded into your FusionPro fonts.ini file.

Originally Posted by daniel

I think the fonts on that server are corrupt, so I want to know how to delete everything on there so I can start fresh.

I still don't know what "that server" is. So I don't know how to "delete everything on there." But I don't think that is meaningful.

Originally Posted by daniel

The reason why the assets.dat is different is because one is from my computer (27mb) and the other is from a PTI developer's computer. I can't figure out why my computer's assets.dat doesn't work.

Well, again, I'm just looking at files uploaded to the Marcom servers, and there's no way to know from looking at them what computer they came from, at least not for the Assets.dat files. This is not the best way to analyze a problem like this.

Originally Posted by daniel

I need to figure out a fix on my computer though because as I develop more templates or tweak the ones developed by PTI I will recollect the job and upload it.

In order to really figure this out correctly, you need to work with Support. You may need to send more files, including the fonts.ini and fonts.err files, the original font files themselves (OTF, TTF, etc.), and the fonts created in FusionPro's fonts folder. But this public forum is not the appropriate place to post such files, especially fonts which are not licensed to for public distribution.

[daniel]

I thought because there's a program called FusionPro Server that it's uploading the fonts to a server. Also, my PC doesn't have "Font A" so why is "Font A" appearing when I load all fonts? It must be getting it from somewhere other than itself? I just want to reset everything so maybe any corrupt fonts can be removed.

[Dan Korn]

Originally Posted by daniel

I thought because there's a program called FusionPro Server that it's uploading the fonts to a server. Also, my PC doesn't have "Font A" so why is "Font A" appearing when I load all fonts? It must be getting it from somewhere other than itself? I just want to reset everything so maybe any corrupt fonts can be removed.

I don't have any more answers without any more information. You could at least try to answer some of my clarification-seeking questions.

But the bottom line is that I can't figure out why that font is appearing just by back-and-forth here in this forum. You need to work with Support.

[daniel]

I've tried support, not really getting any solutions. They keep telling me to reinstall things.

The basic problem is in FusionPro it looks like this: https://www.dropbox.com/s/vi27rx7225...%20AM.png?dl=0

And in Marcom when it's uploaded it looks like this:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/iac14av4ru...%20AM.png?dl=0

I think it's a font collecting issue. Latin characters are not tracked out. Also any other big CJK fonts I install on my computer won't be loaded to FusionPro. Not sure if the issue is related.

[Dan Korn]

Originally Posted by daniel

I've tried support, not really getting any solutions. They keep telling me to reinstall things.

Ask Support to forward your issue to me. I can't work with you off-list just from the forum, but I can work with you if the issue is escalated through Support channels. You will eventually have to answer some of my specific clarifying questions about versions, what paths you're looking at, what font utilities you may be using, etc.

Originally Posted by daniel

The basic problem is in FusionPro it looks like this: https://www.dropbox.com/s/vi27rx7225...%20AM.png?dl=0

And in Marcom when it's uploaded it looks like this:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/iac14av4ru...%20AM.png?dl=0

Those both give me 404 errors. But I already understand the basic problem, from the picture in your original post. The thing is that I can't figure out what's going wrong without more information. Again, I've asked you a lot of questions in this thread, and you have been either unwilling or unable to answer most of them.

Originally Posted by daniel

I think it's a font collecting issue. Latin characters are not tracked out.

Yes, it is probably a font collecting issue. Although I'm still not convinced that the files being used for the Marcom composition are all from the same collect.

Originally Posted by daniel

Also any other big CJK fonts I install on my computer won't be loaded to FusionPro. Not sure if the issue is related.

Do you have "Enable Asian Character Support" checked on the Advanced Settings dialog?

[daniel]

https://www.dropbox.com/s/vi27rx7225...%20AM.png?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/iac14av4ru...%20AM.png?dl=0

[daniel]

Sorry, the reason I didn't answer your questions is because I don't really understand most of your questions. Here's what I can figure, I don't have a programming background:

Version: FusionPro VDP Creator 9.3.26
Paths: ? /Library/Fonts
Font Utilities: None? Fontbook on Mac?

[Dan Korn]

Originally Posted by daniel

Sorry, the reason I didn't answer your questions is because I don't really understand most of your questions. Here's what I can figure, I don't have a programming background:

Version: FusionPro VDP Creator 9.3.26
Paths: ? /Library/Fonts
Font Utilities: None? Fontbook on Mac?

I really don't see how having a programming background affects your ability to answer questions such as what version of Mac OS X and Acrobat you're running, nor questions such as these:

Originally Posted by Dan Korn

Also, by what mechanism are you determining that this other computer doesn't have "Font A" installed? Are you looking in the Font Book app?

I mean, you're telling me that you "go on a different computer that doesn't have 'Font A'," and I'm asking you, how exactly are you determining whether that other computer has "Font A" on it, and you say you can't answer because you don't have a programming background? You can't tell me what it is that you were looking at on your computer screen that has a list of fonts without "Font A" on there because you don't write code?

I really am trying to help you out here, but you need to try to meet me halfway. If you don't understand my questions, then say so, or ask me another question, and we'll work it out. If you just ignore my questions, then we're never going to get anywhere.

[daniel]

Yeah I don't understand your questions. What question do you need answered? I'm using two computers, a Windows computer and a Mac.

[Dan Korn]

Originally Posted by daniel

Yeah I don't understand your questions. What question do you need answered?

Well, for starters, I've asked you this question three times now: When you say that "go on a different computer that doesn't have 'Font A'," and I'm asking you, how exactly are you determining whether that other computer has "Font A" on it? Are you looking at the Mac Font Book program? Or the Windows Fonts Control Panel? Or something else?

Originally Posted by daniel

I'm using two computers, a Windows computer and a Mac.

Also, this is the first time in this entire thread that you have said that your other computer was a Windows machine. Did you think that I would just figure that out via ESP or something?

That fact that you are using two different operating systems on your two different machines is a very important clue here. It would be very easy to upload, say, the Assets.dat from your Windows machine along with the other template files from your Mac, or vice-versa, which would almost certainly cause the kind of problem you're seeing.

So how about this: Can you answer these specific questions?

1. What is the version of FusionPro on the Mac computer?
2. What is the version of Mac OS X on the Mac computer?
3. What is the version of Acrobat on the Mac computer?
4. What program/utility are you using to determine the list of installed fonts on the Mac computer?
5. What is the version of FusionPro on the Windows computer?
6. What is the version of Windows on the Windows computer?
7. What is the version of Acrobat on the Windows computer?
8. What program/utility are you using to determine the list of installed fonts on the Windows computer?

If you don't understand any of these questions, please ask for clarification.